Crazy on topic
post
Ok, I am wondering if it might be worth taking a flyer on TTWO.
The major thing concerning me ATM is that GTA5 PC is charting 30
for download and 40 for game on Amazon. I was expecting a bit
higher based on pre-release videos and customization abilities. It
certainly looks unbelievable. I thought a lot of folks would want
this, and I am sure it will do well, but not quite breaking out
like I imagined.
I expect Red Dead, perhaps next year which would make those
current estimates very very low. If memory serves R* San Diego
hired some in 2012 and then had a huge number of openings last
September. So Spring 2016? If this timeline is correct, could we
likely see 30-35 in next 12 months? I would feel a lot more
comfortable buying TTWO below 20, but i am watchng it again for a
possible entry and would like others thoughts if you have them.
jamok I know your thought: Run Away! :)
|
|
Jon, TTWO imo is all about the long expected RDR sequel, which
they are surely working on. Maybe they are even working on a RDR
remaster as an interim step. I think the 6 months leading up to
RDR2 release will be good for the stock, likely taking it to the
previous highs of $30-$32. Current analyst ests through March 2016
are $1.39, which means a forward 18x non-gaap, not subtracting
(cash-debt) from the multiple, in a year of negative headlines from
declining earning and revenue vs the year before. That isn't
compelling. Throw RDR2 into the mix and suddenly we'll be looking
at game hype, a cycle of raising estimates, a lower multiple, and
probably a big move.
So when is RDR2 coming? At least 6-12 months after announcement,
so if it's not announced by next month I think it's not this FY.
They typically ignore E3 in June, and even if it were announced by
next month it could still be delayed later to say May, which is
always something to watch out for. Or maybe they produce a RDR
remaster for this holiday season, which will be a solid seller I
think, and easy money, but not a massive seller. I think the gaming
community is already getting annoyed with the rather large number
of remasters being done. If this year is a remaster then RDR2 may
be holiday 2016 and not announced until early 2016.
What's the take away? It might be a good idea to sell at the
money puts around $25, and then calls if you get put the stock, to
take advantage of the volatility. That's until RDR2 is announced,
then hold shares for the 6 months until it releases.
|
Author:
|
Jester
Debunker
|
Subject:
|
Analysis
|
Sentiment:
|
Neutral
|
Date:
|
04/14/15 at 10:56 AM CDT
|
|
Jon, Right you are - to me, TTWO is like that seductive *****
that Dylan once sang about, "You're so kind, and careful......and
she takes your voice, and leaves you howling at the moon." The
fundamentals analysis of TTWO always looks like a slam-dunk deal -
Somewhere in here we'll celebrate the 10th anniversary of TTWO
having the best game content of any vg company by far. So how can
they not be a huge winner? To me, it's like a producing a very fine
wine in the final stage, when it is strained through a fine-mesh
sieve to produce a vintage of premium clarity and purity. The
problem being, that sieve is Zelnick and company's pockets, and
what you get are the dregs left in the sieve, never the sweet
wine.
That said, if it did go below 18, I might be tempted also - but
the last time I did that, after a slide I got out with a minimal
profit, before it actually did take off into the 20's. I'd be much
happier having bought more ALU @$4, or $4.40, or any price above
the paltry stake I have at $3.70. I'm kicking myself for missing
the boat. I thought $3.70was a bit pricey, given that it had been
sub-$3 a short time ago. $4.90 seems to me to have the NOK deal
baked in at this point, so I have to pass - hope it'll back down
some.
Moral of the story: Thank lt cap for his grand DD wisdom
sharing, and the Oracle (not the stock, the man) is your
friend - like the trend, don't buck it.
OTOH, I'm holding about $20k in CIEN - tried Jon's option play
once too often - kept the premium, but CIEN dropped by more than
that amt. I assume today it's flying above 21 in sympathy with ALU.
Interesting that the rich call returns that Jon pointed out have
pretty much disappeared. For whatever reason that unreasonable
premium i s gone.
|
Author:
|
Jam
ok
|
Subject:
|
Analysis
|
Sentiment:
|
Neutral
|
Date:
|
04/14/15 at 1:52 PM CDT
|
|
I have been trading GPRO. Nice premiums on selling calls. Risky
as shorts think it should fall to 20's, but I think as the clear
leader in the field it can/should(?) hold onto 40's and could rise
back to 50's or 60's. Not sure I would hold through all of that,
but I have been selling calls for good money $2-3 above where I
purchased shares. I have various lots between 41-47.
|
Author:
|
breinejm
|
Subject:
|
Analysis
|
Sentiment:
|
Neutral
|
Date:
|
04/14/15 at 2:46 PM CDT
|
|