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06/24/15 at 2:24 PM CDT

 

 

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Greekhaustion

I certainly have reached that point.  

The following is most certainly an oversimplification of the situation, but it is as I see it:

Alexis Tsipras is playing the same game of brinkmanship as creditor banks and Nations are. From where I sit, I think Tsipras is doing it better in this high stakes game.  This is evidenced by the fact that Greece has not been cut off in all the years we have been going through this drama.   Greece continues to offer no real solution to its deep troubles, they will most certainly continue.

I am Greekausted and frankly I wish Greece exits the EU. Why?  Because it virtualy is out.  Germany should just admit this is an unresolvable situation and Greece should be allowed to exit, and Germany take its lumps and walk away.  But that seems to be the issue, Germany somehow wants Greece in the EU (because of the favorable trade, most likely, even though trade between the two countries has to be in the toilet), even though it knows the Greeks are reluctant to really make the required changes and without those changes the problem simply cannot go away.

Presumably a big concern is that Greece could be the first domino to topple the Union and the Euro. Britain and France could be next, never mind the debt issues of other EU countries.

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Jester Debunker

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06/24/15 at 5:27 PM CDT

Yes that is the concern, but Greece is totally bankrupt, it will not pay its debt. Eventually it will leave the Euro, to me it seems inevitable.

 Other indebted countries that gave in to tough reforms just a few years ago must now be feeling that Greece is getting away with murder.  The precedent being set will come back to hunt the Euro zone in the future.  Certainly, these indebted countries will use the same tactics Tsipras is using. 

 This kick the can down the road is eventually going t catch up with all the world’s major economies.  


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06/25/15 at 7:17 AM CDT

The Fed will be expanding its swap lines soon for Greece I bet, printing fresh dollars to swap for euros to aid liquidity, just like they did in the 2008 crisis and around 2012 when Greece was a concern (before it was solved multiple times). So many of these countries are broke, will never pay back their debt, and are printing money to buy each others bonds and stocks in a never ending cycle. Or is it never ending? Interesting times...


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06/25/15 at 8:32 AM CDT

lt cap,

If only we could 'time' the Greek 'drama', we could theoretically monetize it - short Greece/Europe ahead of an important payment date, go long just before the deadline runs out. Wish I could be that precise. This could turn out to be a longer running 'dramatic presentation' than anything on Broadway. So far, it stays true to the protocol of dramatic productions - the ending is always the same - and the audience claps (even if it is, as Jester often terms it, a 'golf clap'), the cast takes a bow, the play's the thing.


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06/25/15 at 7:14 PM CDT

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