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02/13/17 at 1:33 PM CST

 

 

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OT - market jet propulsion?

<p>OT - Can someone enlighten me on the 'Trump trade'? The market just keeps marching north, no matter what kind of disarray the administration is in. Yes, I know that big infrastructure expenditures, lower taxes on corps, dismantling of any oversight on corps, et. al. looks like a business 'goldmine'. But the market is reacting as though this is 'locked' to be a reality, ignoring how Trump ping-pongs on all his policy, makes promises one day and retracts them the next, and so on. He's being treated as a reliable player which he certainly is not. And there's no guarantee that he won't be impeached. </p> <p>Is the idea that even if he is impeached (it'd be hard to pull off, given that they'd need Republican votes to do it - and there are plenty of Republicans that would like to see him gone, but it a tricky act to perform for them), things will get better with Pence as president, given that he's on board with the stated (but not yet realized) policies, and he's not a whack job like Trump.</p> <p>Is that it? Can we expect DOW 40k? He's already making world leaders nervous with zig-zag realiability and slight - the market doesn't discount the possibility of a serious crises he may create?</p>

There is a method to Trump's madness. His tactics are to be deliverately unpredictable and to make demands that are much more than what he really wants to extract from his targets.  He does not care about public opinion, so long as he can demonstrate in the end that he has won.  The truth is often the victim of his ways.

His base is still quite strong and they do not care about his means so long as it justifies the end result.  He knows this very well.


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LongTerm CapGains

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02/14/17 at 7:16 AM CST

Cramer is totally bullish on some of Trump's policies.  He is totally bullish on the market and saying he does not think the market is overvalued.  Seems everyone is, still mekes me worry when everyone is in the market. 

That said, I remeber when Greenspan in 1997 uttered the phrase: Irrational Exhuberance.  Yet the market kept on going for some 2+ years.


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LongTerm CapGains

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02/15/17 at 6:43 AM CST

lt cap,

Yeah, it's not been since 2000 that I've seen this much uniformity on the consensus narrative of this market: worst indictment from heads of investment companies is that yes, the market may seem rich in valuation, but if you look at forward pe's, it's not. People apparently have forgotten 2000 dot-com: EMC went from 102 to around 49. AMD was at 48, and eventually bottomed around $3. I'm left wondering why Trump's 'intentions' are trustworthy - he changes hit promises on a dime. Seems that suddenly the economy is better because Yellen says the economy is stronger. Is it? Perhaps earnings are bettr than I thought. Perhaps analysts are recommending buying the future and not the present.

Near market's close, I bought CIEN and sold 10 covered calls - figure that if CSCO reports well, the sector will draft higher. Only got about .97 cents for them. If CSCO doesn't go well, I have some time to see what CIEN does, ane perhaps buy it back, depending how it does. The calls are for Mar 10 stk 26. Good luck.

I see Pudzer, another Trump cabinet candidate, just fell out due to conflicts and who knows what. And the market keeps marching north. 

When (if?) this market does crash, it reminds me of an old joke: An investor jumps off a 100 story building. As he passes the 50th floor, a man at the window asks how he's doing. "So far, so good."

 


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Jam ok

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02/15/17 at 3:14 PM CST

Speaking of market jet propulsion, another 0.5% this morning. Though to be fair, some of that is from yesterday, when the market was unable to rise due to not being open. It's amazing that we've already had a typical years gains and it's not even the end of February.


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Jester Debunker

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02/21/17 at 9:15 AM CST

I fear we will have a pretty nasty market correction, I would not be surprised if it is  18% or more.  


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02/22/17 at 6:37 AM CST

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