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Jam ok

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06/03/20 at 1:23 PM CDT

 

 

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OT - CIEN

OT - CIEN - And it just keeps on climbing to new highs. Analysts, who had been largely silent, recently came out with a slew of upgrades, the highest, I think, being a PT of $69. It's so difficult to tell how to play this - I've optioned out as much as I want on calls that surely have/will finish ITM. The thing is......NVDA looks like a very similar story - huge runup into earnings, hitting around (working from memory) $367 for the high. A 'perfect' CC, with no flaws - and the current price is about $349. So, does CIEN also have an insane run-up, a stellar CC, and a sell-off afterwards? The one difference is that NVDA has about a 30% exposure to China, and CIEN has very little. So Trump's distraction of picking new fights with China might be a factor in NVDA backing down. I will probably think long terms and not sell calls before earnings on Friday. But it's certainly tempting.

It looks like rotation out of fully-priced tech into other parts of the market. For example, NVDA and MSFT have been flat for a couple of weeks, Apple up about 1% in that time and flat for the last week, while the S&P 500 is up 5% and some beaten down sectors like airlines have soared.

Re CIEN specifically, once it broke $50 sustained strength was always likely. As for post-earnings, who knows, but I would expect $50 to provide support, and for any shorts to be worried about lack of upside resistance.

The market in general looks over-priced, thanks Powell.


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Jester Debunker

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Date:

06/03/20 at 5:57 PM CDT

Jester,

The strength in chips in today's massive rally just goes to show how unpredictable the volatility has made everything become. It just seems insane - as you say, prices seem overvalued, and yet...today the market thinks they're undervalued. Both the beaten down sectora and the old standbys are benefitting. INTC up 2.5%? It's really just in-line with the rise of the DOW. 

CIEN's results were just fine - but a quizzically clouded outlook seems to signal that visibility still counts, as it has basically brought the stock close to a halt. It seems the analysts couldn't figure out why outlook was so fuzzy. Still, today's upgrades has PT ranging from $61 to $72 from 3 brokerages, all upgrades.


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Jam ok

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Date:

06/05/20 at 2:52 PM CDT

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